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Trump, Colin Kaepernick and the Super Bowl: Scholar David Leonard on white privilege in sports

4 February 2019 at 01:30

Sports are not neutral. They are a political battlefield. This is especially true along the color line in America. These moments can consist of singular events: Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier in Major League Baseball, Tommie Smith and John Carlos raising their black-gloved fists in defiance against American injustice at the 1968 Olympics, Jack Johnson and Muhammad Ali mastering the sweet science of boxing and delivering devastating blows against Jim and Jane Crow white supremacy and its assumptions about the mental, intellectual and physical inferiority of black people.

Black women are central to this story as well. Althea Gibson was the first black woman to break the color barrier in professional tennis. Decades later Venus and Serena Williams are trailblazing pioneers for their skill and dominance in women’s professional tennis.

More recently, of course, there is former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick and other black athletes (along with a few white ones) who have taken a knee during the national anthem to protest oppression and social injustice in post civil rights America.

There has been blowback, of course: Donald Trump won a presidential election (if only by a fluke) and remains remarkably popular among Republican and other white right-wing voters. At least in part, this reflects his strategy of condemning and threatening black athletes who dare to stand up for the value of black lives.

The politics of sports are also revealed in systemic and institutional ways. In American professional sports the vast majority of teams are owned by rich, older white men. Black and brown bodies perform on the sports field, sacrificing their mental and physical health as the raw fuel for corporate and collegiate sports franchises worth millions if not billions of dollars. Girls and women do not have the same access to sports — and the profits and privileges and opportunities that come with them — as boys and men.

Professional sports teams receive enormous subsidies and protections from local communities and taxpayers, while many of those same communities are struggling to provide basic services. The U.S. military uses the NFL and other sports as a tool for recruiting young people into its ranks. The jet and helicopter flyovers, the American flags and the frequent appearance of uniformed troops on the field are a superficial form of patriotism whose primary function is to legitimate nationalism and militarism.

Sunday’s Super Bowl game between the New England Patriots and the Los Angeles Rams will be a spectacular display of the many ways that sports are political, and not an ideologically neutral or safe space.

How and why has Donald Trump targeted black athletes in his “culture war” strategy? Why has Colin Kaepernick become so despised by many white sports fans (and some black and brown ones as well)? How do black athletes — and the public response to them — represent America’s long and problematic history along the color line? How does white privilege operate in how athletes such as Tim Tebow and Tom Brady are perceived and treated? Are black athletes held to a higher and more difficult standard of civic responsibility?

In an effort to answer these questions I recently spoke with David Leonard, a professor in the Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University. He is the author of several books on race and politics in sports, including “After Artest: The NBA and the Assault on Blackness” and the recently published “Playing While White: Privilege and Power On and Off the Field.”

This conversation has been edited for clarity and length.

How did this moment with Donald Trump, who is now entering his third year as president, come to be?

In many ways, we’ve always been here. We’ve just had different chapters, different manifestations of the same history of inequality, of racism and of misogyny. In the most immediate moment, Trump can be viewed as a backlash to the election of President Obama. You can see the backlash against demographic shifts. You can see it as a backlash against cultural change.

Trumpism is a continuation of hundreds of years of history. But now filtered through spectacle, consumerism and loneliness, where we go from one moment to the next without any grounding or context.

Why do sports matter in this moment? Why does Colin Kaepernick matter in particular?

Kaepernick matters because sports are political. The fact that there is so much anger directed at him demonstrates the investment in sports as a particular type of political project where nationalism and militarism and where black bodies are required to “shut up and play.”

Kaepernick also matters for those who care about justice, because he’s a reminder of the power and potential of sport as an instrument of change.

But we also have to be careful. Too many people have reduced the Revolt of the Black Athlete 2.0 down to him. There have been other moments of resistance, such as WNBA players protesting and college athletes protesting in recent years, and other resistant moments as well. We have a tendency to reduce a movement down to a single individual — in particular a male, charismatic figure who has a national spotlight on him.

Movements are bigger than single individuals. In the case of Kaepernick you have him kneeling about the persistent violence directed at the black community, about police violence, about systemic racism, about Flint. We all too often get stuck focusing on the act of protest and not on what is being protested.

How would you respond to people, especially white folks, who would say that politics should be kept out of sports? 

How comforting. It must be a wonderful place of privilege to see sports as apolitical for that black athlete who deals with racial slurs coming from the stands or that young girl who wants to play sports but is denied access, who has to hear parents or coaches talk about how she “throws like a girl.”

When we look at the mistreatment athletes, those playing sports around the globe, those who work in stadiums and build stadiums, it must be nice to think of that all as an apolitical space. There are countless examples of how sports are political, such as the national anthem being played, or military planes flying overhead, or the fact that the coaches or general managers or athletic directors are overwhelmingly white men.

The discourse around sports and athletes is also very political. For example, when black athletes are talked about differently than white athletes. Black athletes are very often described as being “selfish.”

Ultimately, the history of racism and racial politics are embedded in sports culture. To those who object to black athletes taking a knee in the NFL or elsewhere I would say, “So you want protest to happen in a place that isn’t disruptive to your daily life. Where is that place?” When you tell me that place, my question would then be, “When a protest happens in that place, will you support it?”

You hear people who say, “I support the cause, but not the method or not the place.” My question is, how do you support the cause? What are those people doing? How are they demanding change? Because part of the reason, historically, that black athletes use the platform of sports is because other spaces have been closed off. This is a silencing of not only protest, but the voice of people saying that these are our lived realities.

If you don’t want sports to be used, then what other spaces would you prefer? Whether it be workplaces, place of worships, schools or other parts of the public sphere, there is a long history of white Americans saying, “Protest, but just not here. This isn’t the appropriate place. This isn’t the appropriate time.”

This policing of black athletes is also part of a broader tradition in America and the West about the control of nonwhite bodies and submission to white authority.   

What sports remind us is that there is a secure place for black bodies when they are doing the “proper work.” When black bodies are doing the work that is profitable, that is desirable, that authenticates a story of American exceptionalism and of racial progress.

From the protests of WNBA players to Kaepernick and to high school athletes as well, these protests aren’t simply against persistent anti-blackness in American society, they are also a demand to be heard. They’re also saying, “No, I will not shut up and play. My existence isn’t predicated on touchdowns. My existence isn’t predicated on winning a championship.”

A comparison between how Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick are treated is a stark example of white privilege and white entitlement.

There are multiple levels of white privilege at work with Tim Tebow. Likewise, similar dynamics are operative with Tom Brady putting a red Trump hat in his locker, or any number of college football coaches coming out in support of Donald Trump or making statements about the Black Lives Matter movement.

Certain athletes and those connected with sports are empowered to be political. It is not that sports should not be political. Rather it is that it is OK if it is a certain kind of politics, being practiced and engaged in by certain people. Therefore, whiteness is the ability to engage in politics or not to engage in politics. Whiteness is the power to assert oneself by choice and at will.

Considering Tim Tebow as an example. The black athletic body at rest is seen as unproductive, worthless and not valuable. Whereas Tebow resting and praying is seen as not only OK but desirable. Why? Because it authenticates this notion of the white athlete bringing morality, civility and religiosity into the sporting world.

Tebow, who was kneeling — which puts a spotlight on himself — is somehow seen as focusing on something bigger before the world. He is supposedly putting his relationship with God first. And yet Kaepernick was putting justice, putting black lives, putting any number of men, women and children whose lives were taken needlessly and unjustly first and before his own immediate personal self-interest. Yet Kaepernick is somehow criticized as being selfish.

Tebow also exhibits the power of whiteness in terms of how a person is celebrated as a leader, a role model, such a winner that he was afforded multiple opportunities to have a career. Tebow hits a home run in Double A baseball and it becomes breaking news on sports radio and TV. This also reflects the longstanding investment in the white quarterback as a cultural figure. A quarterback is imagined as being the most intelligent player on the football field and also the team leader.

Those same qualities are also still seen in American culture as being the purview of white men. This same logic justifies and normalizes the hiring of white men as CEOs, as being president of the United States, as being the “rightful” and “normal” leaders in America. Such racial logic gives Tim Tebow a platform and denies one to Colin Kaepernick.

What do the videos of people burning Nike sneakers in response to the Kaepernick ad reveal about the politics of sports and society? Those videos are very evocative of spectacular lynchings and other types of violence against black bodies.     

This is again an investment in a certain type of politics and sport. Kaepernick and other black and brown athletes who kneel in protest against racism and injustice are such an affront to a certain type of (usually) right-wing politics that he should be kicked out of the NFL and his whole life destroyed.

Burning the Nike sneakers also speaks to the level of anger and betrayal that his protest elicited. This shows us that there is a significant investment in sports as authenticating American exceptionalism.

The anger at Kaepernick and burning the Nike sneakers also shows how invested as a culture the American people are in brands. People define themselves through their phones, shoes and even their headphones. So you have people who believe that Nike defines their identity seeing an athlete associated with that brand fighting for racial justice. It is personal for them. They do not believe in the same things. It is almost like Nike betrayed them.

There’s other reading of Nike’s ad campaign with Kaepernick. How “resistant” or “oppositional” is it really for him to be allied with a multibillion-dollar global corporation that exploits children in sweatshops.

We can’t have it both ways. We can’t simply talk about profit-driving fostering injustice and then make an exception when there is a cause or leader we agree with involved with a corporate actor.

Part of people’s response to Nike’s campaign with Kaepernick feels like more of a celebration of him getting paid after losing out to the NFL. There needs to be a discussion of Nike and other global corporations and the context of capital, racism and the exploitation of children — especially children of color around the globe — working in the apparel industry.

Is Nike supporting Kaepernick’s politics and struggle? I have yet to see Nike support the movement for black lives. Even the inclusion of Kaepernick in the ads does not make reference to the protests. There is also no reference to the larger movement.

There is a dimension here where these critical questions are not being asked, because people are reasoning that if Donald Trump is critiquing Nike then I am by definition on the other side opposing him and what he stands for.

The relationship between Nike and Kaepernick — and of these corporations and social-change work in general — does minimize the actual struggle for racial justice and the courage involved. Taking on a sport you didn’t think you could do might be a type of courage. But that type of courage and standing up against the state and oppression are very different.

The hyper-individual neoliberal mantra “Just do it” is a theme going back to Nike’s advertising campaigns with Michael Jordan.

What happens when you “just do it” and the state comes down on you? What happens when you “just do it” and the powerful take everything away from you?

How should we think about generational differences regarding the politics of the black athlete? NFL legend Jim Brown is very conservative in terms of economic policy — going back to Nixon and “black economic empowerment” — and has been critical of Kaepernick. He also supports Donald Trump.

Your point is one that really has not been highlighted enough. Jim Brown has said that Kaepernick has the right to protest and take a knee, but that would not be his approach. It should not be shocking that Brown supports Trump. If you look at the history of black economic nationalism, something that Jim Brown embraced, one of its major ideas is self-determination simply through capital.

But that becomes a convenient way of diminishing black youth,  whether it be black youth shutting down freeways or Kaepernick kneeling or high school and college students protesting. Invoking previous generations of black athletes can be used in a very conservative and reactionary way to marginalize and undercut protest movements at work today.

Therefore you will see a narrative where it goes something like, “Look, Jim Brown, one of the foremost athletes who ever protested, he even tells you you’re out of line.” This is the same playbook that was used in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s against the black freedom struggle. These generational tensions within the black freedom struggle and other human rights movements are really nothing new.

I have heard the following argument made at my local barbershop, and I will admit in some ways I agree with it. Why wouldn’t Kaepernick just be quiet for now, play, get all the money he can, and work behind the scenes to do his political work? Then when he retires and has all that money saved he can say and do anything he wants, and do so with even more resources at his command.

What do we know about the history of African-American and other athletes, in terms of how those calculations are made? The fact that black athletes have to make such a calculation and that white athletes generally do not tells us everything we need to know. The fact is that white athletes can decide whether to be political or not. Whereas for black athletes there is a backlash no matter what.

For those who focus on the sport and do things behind the scenes, they are then criticized for not using their platform to create change. This happened with LeBron James.

Yet when James does speak out he’s told to shut up and play. It is very easy for white Americans to tell black athletes, “Why didn’t you do this?” Or “Why didn’t you take this approach?” or “Why didn’t you just give money?”

Yet there isn’t the demand placed on white athletes to engage in social and political change work. White athletes get a pass. Whether it be the pass that they get from the media of not being asked to take a position or the lack of expectation that they give back to their communities and the public or groups in crisis.

Why is there an expectation that LeBron James give back to Cleveland? What about other white athletes from Cleveland and Ohio?

It’s a lose-lose, right? If a black athlete speaks truth to power then he or she is a troublemaker because they are not living up to white expectations about black obedience. But if black athletes do not become involved politically or in other types of social-change work it becomes a narrative about black folks not being civically engaged, of them being bad citizens.

There are many examples of how the black athletes who speak up and engage politically are attacked as somehow betraying the traditions of Bill Russell and Tommie Smith. There is this flat understanding of the past which is used to demonize black athletes in the present.

It is as if Bill Russell or Tommie Smith or Althea Gibson were celebrated for protesting. No, they were demonized. They were punished, they were criminalized, they were treated as ungrateful, they were stripped of medals, among other things. So, it is a no-win scenario. White athletes, and white folks more generally, do not have that burden of expectation and confronting such a lose-lose scenario.

When, for example, white athletes do engage in any form of protest it is treated as “breaking news” and something to celebrate.  See all the attention when Tom Brady liked the Instagram photo of the Kaepernick Nike ad. Should Brady get a medal? So what? He liked a Nike ad? There are white athletes, very few but still noteworthy, who have done so much more.

There is a deep convergence between right-wing talk radio and other media and sports talk radio and media. This is very apparent in the animus against Colin Kaepernick, Venus and Serena Williams and other black athletes.

I do think there is a shared history there. Beyond questions of media consolidation and ownership, those are both spaces that reinforce white male power and a particular understanding of the role of sports in society as a whole. Right-wing talk radio and sports talk radio also leverage a particular type of white anxiety about demographic change in America as well.

Do you think Trump’s animus towards black athletes as part of the right-wing culture war strategy will be enough for his voters to overlook his many failings and to reelect him in 2020?

It is an element. Trump’s use of culture-war narratives against nonwhites and other marginalized groups is part of the glue that will hold his electoral coalition together. In all, this reveals a great deal about the power of sports and the investment in sports as a racial political project.

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Video Interview

Transcript

I made some tiny edits for clarity and removed a lot of “um”s and “you know”s and repeated words but otherwise I left the interview alone.

Larrin Thomas:

I’m Larrin. This is Knife Steel Nerds. I have with me Bob Shabala of Niagara Specialty Metals. And we have a lot to talk about in the wake of the Crucible bankruptcy, and a lot of things that are happening right now. So, Bob, could you start out by telling us your position at Niagara and some of the history of Niagara Specialty Metals?

Bob Shabala:

Sure. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I’m the president and CEO of Niagara Specialty Metals. I’ve been here for 31 years. Niagara Specialty Metals started in 1982 by two gentlemen, Barry Hemphill and Lou Valery, primarily as a mill to service the tool steel industry. They bought slabs of steel and hot rolled it into sheet or plate. Quickly, it grew into more of a service company where people would send them material to roll and ship back to them. Then over time, we expanded capabilities to be able to process stainless steels, aerospace alloys, titanium, maraging, and the cutlery grades that are of interest here today.

In 2009, Crucible was our biggest customer. They went bankrupt the first time, and we came to an agreement where they would supply us with all the CPM alloys, and we could market them and sell them to whoever we want.

So from 2009 until present day, they were our sole supplier of PM alloys. They were great to work with, they were very responsive. But we could see the writing on the wall starting last year that things weren’t going well and that they were in trouble. So that’s when we started reaching out to other suppliers to, uh, to get us the steel we need for, for this market.

In addition to that, we have 40 employees. In 2004, Barry Hemphill was the remaining sole owner of the company. He essentially gave it to the employees. He turned it into a 100% ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan). So everybody working here is an owner of the company. So when they retire, we buy the shares back from them, and it’s worked out very well for all the employees that are here. So when it comes time to fill positions, it’s not easy, but it’s easier than most places. And typically, once we get somebody in here working and they understand the value of the ESOP and working for a small employee-owned company, they tend to stay for a long time, which is great. We have very minimal turnover, so we can take our time training somebody because it takes three to five years to train somebody on all the jobs we have here. So the model has worked out very well for us.

Larrin:

So you mentioned PM alloys. That refers to powder metallurgy alloys, or specifically (in this case) steels for the knife industry. And Crucible invented that technology back in the late 60s, early 70s. And so they had a great legacy of making those steels. You know you had other suppliers for regular conventional steels, which are ingot cast, right? And so, powder metallurgy, a lot of the best knife steels are made with powder metallurgy. So anything with a CPM in front of it was powder metallurgy. So many of the best steels like S30V, S35VN, MagnaCut, you know, those are all powder metallurgy. So, Crucible going away is kind of a blow.

Another thing I want to hear about a little bit is the unique capabilities of Niagara. There’s really not any competitors in the USA for what you’re doing, right? What makes it so challenging to hot roll steel for knives?

Bob:

So for our initial rolling operation, we would just call it the plate mill. It’s in a fairly small area compared to most big mills. So we have the unique ability to reheat. So, take a grade like Rex 121 or Rex 76, we might have to reheat those plates every two or three passes. So we’re able to do that, whereas some mills, once you take it out of the furnace, they can only roll it so far and then that’s it. It’s also a hand mill, so we can take anything from 100 pounds up to 3,000 pounds and roll that into a different dimension. When we buy slabs, they start out anywhere from three to six inches thick. So if we’re rolling down to anything less than a half inch, what we do is roll it to an intermediate size. Then we anneal it to soften it back up. We’ll de-scale it to clean the surface, send it down to our sheet mill where we then reheat it again, finish roll it to size, anneal it, flatten, and ship.

I guess people don’t do what we do because the quantities are relatively small. We take on anything from one piece to a truckload, and our ability to deliver on time and relatively quickly is hard to beat. So that’s why we have this small segment of the market kind of, not to ourselves, but, why we’re doing well with this kind of product.

Larrin:

So I know for the steel that I developed, MagnaCut, a major reason why I was able to make it happen is because I got your buy-in early on. Crucible was a bit skeptical of trying a grade that I designed since I had not designed any tool steels or stainless steels before. So I know you guys have had a big commitment to the knife industry. Getting steels from other companies is often challenging because a lot of times, they’re sitting around in several-inch-thick pieces. So I think that’s awesome that Niagara has been so good. And the reason why we have a lot of these awesome grades is because Niagara is able to roll them and deliver them, at a good pace, like you said.

So Crucible, you hear, they’re maybe not doing well. So, what was your approach next? What did you start doing to make sure that we weren’t losing out on everything?

Bob:

Sure. Yeah. So last January, January 24, we started increasing our inventory with Crucible. So we started ordering more than we needed to, to kind of boost the inventory. And then, last fall, just in discussions with Crucible, we knew they were for sale. They had announced that. And I asked the president of the company in my position, should I start looking for other places to buy steel? And he said, yes. So I give him a lot of credit that he didn’t try to hide the fact that they were in a desperate time.

So we already had relationships with Carpenter Technology. We’ve processed millions of pounds for Carpenter and Erasteel for other industrial customers. So we, we reached out to both mills, explained our situation, and they were happy to help. So they both right away started looking into the ability to make MagnaCut. Because that’s our most popular grade right now. Erasteel already makes a version of CPM 154. So we ordered test heat of those grades from both mills. And they’ve been fantastic. You know they basically have delivered when they said they were going to deliver. We know the quality is good. It’s just a matter of ensuring that chemistries from different mills, you know, certs are, they don’t read right or they don’t read exactly the same. There might be some offset between mills. So, before we start releasing anything to the public, we want to make sure that it performs like it should. And we really should have everything ready to go here in the next next quarter or so.

Larrin:

So what you’re talking about is that different mills have different equipment for measuring the composition of the heats. And those pieces of equipment can be calibrated somewhat differently. And so one mill might measure 14% chromium and another might read 14.5% chromium for the same thing. And so if you’re then trying to transition grades over between companies, it might behave slightly differently if they have the same composition target. So we’re trying to work on any offset that might be necessary. Not that there would be a problem with a grade with a slightly different composition, but if all of your customers are used to heat treating at specific temperatures, and then it starts heat treating as if you’re 25 or 50 degrees hotter, you know that could be an issue for them if all the steel’s coming out different.

But the quality is high from Erasteel and Carpenter. They have a good reputation for making powder metallurgy steel.

Bob:

Yeah. Yeah. For years, Carpenter would send us their cutlery alloys in addition to aerospace and tool steel. So I think all of the XHP that’s ever been processed and sold to the market has been rolled here in Niagara Specialty, and we’re now stocking it. They felt that they would have better success or move more XHP if they would just sell us the steel and let us sell it to whoever we want. So that’s starting to take off. We also have their version of S90V, 10V, M4. So, yeah, it rolls really nice. There’s really no issues with it at all.

Larrin:

Well, I know XHP, which is a powder metallurgy stainless steel used in knives, that it has had a reputation for being difficult to obtain or having inconsistent availability. And I do think that’s one thing that Niagara has maybe been the best at is just having steel in the sizes that you want available to buy. When you call up these steel companies and they say, yeah, we can get you XHP, just you need to order many tons of it, and then you need to wait a year, it’s not very enticing. And if you’re a small custom knife maker, then obviously it’s just a total no-go. It’s impossible.

So what about our ability to make new alloys? We’re trying to make a new steel with the same concept of MagnaCut, but with improved wear resistance called MagnaMax. Are we going to be able to make that happen now that Crucible is gone?

Bob:

Yeah. So that’s a grade that, thanks to you, we had a prototype heat or an initial two heats made at Crucible, and the feedback’s been great. So, we patented it with you. We also trademarked it. So that gives us the ability to buy from both mills. And they both are getting ready to make it. So by, I think, the fourth quarter this year, we should have heats from both mills ready to go. As far as future alloys go, it’s something we’ll have to discuss with them. You know, our primary concern right now is getting the grades that we’ve always sold and making sure they test out and we get them locked in. And then we can have discussions with them about making new grades as you develop them.

Larrin:

So I guess we haven’t said explicitly that Erasteel bought the IP of Crucible CPM alloys, so all their powder metallurgy alloys. So that includes trademarks and also patents. Though there’s not very many patents remaining because all of the patents date back to before Crucible’s first bankruptcy in 2009. Is there any chance that Crucible will come back, or are they just Erasteel now?

Bob:

I think they’re just Erasteel. I don’t know all of the particulars of what’s going on inside the Crucible facility, but I just don’t see that getting started back up. In fact, I don’t see any domestic companies getting ready to atomize iron-based alloys that would be used in cutlery. There’s atomizing for nickel alloys and maybe titanium, but, um, iron base, I think, is just such a small portion of the overall steel industry. Nobody’s going to put the kind of money into it that they would be required to, and to bring that back on shore.

Larrin:

Well, that would be very disappointing. Nickel and titanium alloys, they have higher profit margins, which might explain why they prefer to make those, even if they have atomization equipment.

So, are we going to continue to make all these grades? I mean, Crucible had… a ton of grades, S30V, S35VN, S45VN, S90V, (etc.) there are so many. Are we going to be able to keep all of those, or are we going to need to simplify the portfolio?

Bob:

We could, in theory, buy them all. Except for 15V, I think that the atomizing temperature on that is higher than what Carpenter or Erasteel can do in their atomizing furnace. They both have said that they can’t make 15V. So until we come up with an alternative there, I think that grade’s going away. But yeah, everything else we could buy. I mean, I think that once MagnaMax comes out, we will take a look at the existing grades in our portfolio and decide if some should be obsoleted. You know, we tried to bring S6 V back a few years ago. We bought a small heat and half of that heat is still here. That didn’t work out. Sales of 20CV have slowed down. So that might be a potential candidate to not buy anymore. But we still sell a lot of CPM-154, S30V, S35VN, S45VN. So I don’t see any of the major grades going anywhere anytime soon. And they’re all on order. We have all those grades on order with Erasteel at this point.

Larrin:

So, how is branding going to work going forward? Are you going to use the same names, or are some grades going to have different names?

Bob:

Yeah, so anything we buy exclusively from Erasteel will retain the CPM grade name. We’re not going to enforce (the prefix) CPM. So if people want to buy S30V, I think we’ll just be calling it S30V. And that satisfies everybody. CPM CruWear, because of an existing agreement they have with another company, we’re going to have to rebrand that. You know, that’s still a big moving grade for us. They currently make that same composition. They have been making it for years. So we’re going to buy that, and it would just be rebranded NSMWear, unless somebody can give me a better name. S90V is not a real big grade for us. And we have a lot of that in stock from Carpenter that we bought during COVID as a way to let Crucible focus on cutlery grades. We had placed orders for industrial grades with Carpenter. So their name for that is CTS 420CW MOD.

Larrin:

And that is not a good name.

Bob:

And I don’t see anybody putting that on a knife blade. So I think we’re going to rebrand that as NSM90 and just try to make sure everybody understands it’s the exact same composition, or virtually the same exact composition, as CPM S90V. So those two grades we’re going to rebrand and see how it goes. And that gives us the ability then to buy from both mills and be single source like we were with Crucible.

Larrin:

So we’re going to have continued availability. Niagara, they’re a great American company specialized in rolling these difficult grades to thin sizes that we need for knives. Everything is in motion to continue. Is there a chance that there is a gap in availability, or is it going to be a smooth transition?

Bob:

Yeah, there’s going to be some disruptions, almost certainly. I think once people found out that Crucible is going out of business, there’s some panic buying. So hopefully everybody has what they need for the next five or six months, but everything except for a CPM-154, MagnaCut, we still have plenty of stock to get us through for the next several months. It’s just a matter of getting in these initial heats, getting them approved. And once that happens, it’s full speed ahead. So I think that the next quarter or so, there are going to be disruptions almost certainly. But once approved, I think that Erasteel and Carpenter both are really looking forward to participating in this in a meaningful way. And they’re here to support us and the whole knife community.

Larrin:

Well, that’s great. I am biased, but I think Niagara is an awesome company and a major reason why we have so many knife steels available in a good range of sizes.

Bob:

Thank you.

Larrin:

So I’m happy things are continuing. I’ve gotten messages from a bunch of knife companies that are freaking out, worried that stuff isn’t going to be available anymore. I keep telling them that Niagara is going to keep stuff going and not to worry.

So hopefully we can quell some of those fears. Supply is going to continue. I think people didn’t always realize that, yes, like Crucible was making the powder and sending slabs to Niagara, but Niagara is the company processing all this steel and selling it all. So hopefully we can get the word out that Niagara is a great company that is delivering all these steels, and Niagara is still here and Niagara is doing well and continuing to make these steels.

Bob:

Yeah, we’re financially very sound. You know, the people we have working here, they’re awesome. I mean, they really make it happen. You know when we have something important, like a new heat of MagnaCut coming in from Erasteel and we need to get it approved, they’re right on it. Literally unloading it from the truck and putting it on the saw and cutting it into blocks to get it rolled the next day. So they really are invested in (the) success of the company and the industry as a whole. So yeah, we’re here for the long haul.

Larrin:

And Niagara’s made some upgrades in recent years, right?

Bob:

Yeah. We did our biggest project ever last year. It’s still in process, but for us it was big. I mean, it is about a $7 million investment. So we added about 15,000 square feet to our sheet mill building. And then we had six small electric box furnaces that they did the job for several years, but the heat in them could be uneven. The elements were delicate and expensive to replace. And it was a bottleneck. The guys could work faster than the furnaces. So lots of times they’re just waiting for the steel to heat up. So once we got the building built, we put in a continuous gas furnace. So now the sheets are in the furnace for 25 to 35 minutes instead of three hours. And the temperature on the blanks is really uniform from front to back and side to side. So the gauge coming off our mill is much more even and easier to control. The surface is a lot cleaner. There’s no scale because it’s not in the furnace as long.

And then the last step of the process is going to be a new housing for the rolling mill itself. So the housing is essentially the structure that holds the rolls and the rolls are, rotating and feeding; that’s where the steel goes through to get reduced. The new housings are complete, but we’re not ready to put them in here yet. We need another month to get all the wiring in place and control panels. So around Labor Day, we’re going to install that. So there we’re going to increase our separating force. There’s going to be some machine learning on it so we can put in recipes. Right now, we just turn the dial and get it to where we think it needs to be, and then we have to check the gauge. So in the end, once that comes in, with the much stronger housing, it should be higher throughput, even more uniform gauge from piece to piece.

So that was a real big investment for us. In addition, we’re getting ready to put on another, I think about 12,000 square foot building for our grinding operation. We have a Blanchard grinder for grinding our sheets to size that’s starting to get a bit of a bottleneck. So we already bought another Blanchard grinder, 84 inch diameter that’s in storage until the building gets built.

We have a fiber optic laser that we can cut up to about 3/8 of an inch and we use high-pressure nitrogen in that. So we cut a lot of knife blanks for the industry now. And that’s starting to get busier. So we cut for small shops that give us a DXF file, we can cut their blanks for them. And (that) saves them shipping whole sheets to a laser shop and then taking the blanks to their place. So kind of a one-stop shop here. So with that filling up, we want to get another laser to put in the new area. And then outside of the cutlery industry, we do a lot of bandsaw cutting. So we roll a lot of big heavy plate, or people send us their plates, and we saw cut it into either small rectangular shapes or strips or full-size plate. So over the past couple years, we’ve spent two to three million dollars in in bandsaws just upgrading our cutting capabilities.

Larrin Thomas

Wow, on bandsaws.

Bob

Yeah. There we have two of them now, they’ll cut in two directions. So all of our bandsaws to date either just cut along the length of a plate or across the end. These two axis ones, we can cut the ends first, then the head goes back, and then it’ll just strip it out. So just put the plate on there one time and you’re done, essentially let the machine do the work. So it just makes it easier to get accurate cuts. The guys like it cause it’s safer, a lot less handling moving plates around. So, yeah, that’s been a big part of our business.

Larrin

Well, thanks, Bob. Hopefully, we answered people’s questions and didn’t just add to the confusion. So we’ll have to bring you back on if we get a lot more questions based on the interview. But thanks for joining me and talking about Niagara and the whole plan for keeping knife steel going.

Bob

All right, anytime. Thanks, Larrin. I appreciate it.

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